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While the Band is Playing: Mac Skinner

 

Tone King: Royalist
Tone King: Royalist

Unlike other careers people choose, the music industry is one of the strangest anyone does. Although nothing is guaranteed in life, the path to become a doctor, engineer, accountant, etc., has been traveled by many before and is a reasonably safe journey. When you enter the music industry, there is no path. You only have a vague map to your destination, whatever tools you have with you, and off you go. When you talk to others that have entered the music industry, they can only tell you what worked for them. Sometimes that will work for everyone or it will only work for them. Sometimes you have a guide to point you in the right direction or you won’t have anyone. Sometimes you just throw your hands in the air and see where the wind takes you. It takes a certain kind of person to take on a business like this.

So this is an on-going series for those who are working in the music industry and for people trying to break into it.

While the Band is Playing

by Jesse Davidson

In this edition, we had a chat with Mac Skinner, General Manager of Two-Rock amplifiers. For those unfamiliar with the brand:

Two-Rock is the boutique amplifier performance leader. Since our founding in 1999, our expert team of amplifier artisans has consistently delivered fully transparent, touch sensitive tonal performance at the very highest level of the industry. It’s hand wired, point to point excellence relied upon by leading artists like John Mayer, John Scofield, Eric Gales, and Matt Schofield – and the performance standard by which all other high-end amplifiers are judged. (Two-Rock.com)

 

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Two Rock-Bionyx

We talked over the phone about his story in the industry.

 

JD: How did you get your start?

 

MS: It’s kind of interesting how it all came together. I’ve always played music growing up either with childhood friends or playing clarinet and saxophone in a jazz band. Then I left music behind for a bit when I went to college in ’94. I sort of tinkered around and dropped out of college. I tried to figure out what I was doing and where I wanted to go. When I finally made a decision I said, “ I don’t want to live in the restaurant industry the rest of my life. I want to finish my degree.” So went back to school asking myself, “What’s the one thing that’s always been a staple in my life?” and the answer was music. It always has been. So when I went back, I finished my music degree.

 

JD: Where did you go to school?

 

MS: Sonoma State. Around that time, I had made a ton of friends from my first time at college. One of those friends was a buddy of mine named Chad. We were roommates and hung out together. He couldn’t drive at the time so I would drop him off at work, which was KNM Analog Designs (the company that owned the Two-Rock brand) at the time. One day, sometime around December, the owners of KNM, Joe and Bill, wanted to go to the NAMM Show. They asked Chad if I could drive him and all the gear down to L.A. for the show and they’d pay me $500 and I would have my meals paid for. After that, there was a potential Guitar Center deal with the company that never panned out. But, they were worried about taking large amounts of orders and had asked me to come on and do piece work at the time. Little self-assemblies here and there.

 

Being at college, having some time, and doing solder work, gave some time to do it on my own. I started as a 1099 and within about a month, I didn’t just want piecework, I wanted to start building amps. I stayed late one night and built an entire amp. Much to Chad’s dismay, who was kind of my “supervisor” at the time (laughs). But I built the whole thing from start to finish. It had two problems but the thing fired off. That was the start of it. We moved into a new shop and for the next three or four years, I built amps. From start to finish and from the ground up. The chassis prep, building circuit boards, the entire amp assembly, shipping and final assembly. Somewhere in there, Chad left to start his own cabinet company, which became a full time job for him. So I took Chad’s place as the lead builder. About that same time, the owner’s of Two Rock were starting to feel burned out and I started taking on more responsibilities. The rest compounded from there and they sold the company to Premier Builder’s Guild. I was sold along with the company and became General Manager to run all of the production in this facility. Like I said, I always wanted to be in the music industry but I just never knew I’d be in the manufacturing of musical instruments (laughs).

Tone King: Falcon
Tone King: Falcon

JD: That’s awesome though. It seems like you just went with the flow of things for the most part.

 

MS: Yeah. The cool thing about Two-Rock is it was always an entrepreneurial business from the start and I always thrive in that sort of environment. And when you can stand by the product and you know it’s a good product. It doesn’t take much to put all of your heart into it, you know?

 

JD: Absolutely. As far as going to school, you met someone there that hooked you up with Two Rock. Many young musicians and industry professionals’ debate about whether they should go to college or go straight into looking for work. What do you think that college provided for you that you otherwise wouldn’t have?

 

MS: Well I think that’s a multiple part question. First of all, the connections I made in college and the amount of work I did in college with the musicians I was around helped shape who I am now. I really wanted to be a recording engineer. I wanted to sit behind a board and I wanted to have my own studio or work in a studio. Then I realized, I was supporting myself too and that wasn’t going to be easy. Because I’d probably end up as an intern, be working for 3 years with no money, get coffee for the bands and clean the studio (laughs) and I didn’t want to be that guy.

 

But the cool thing was, I was around enough musicians at the time that I got tons of recording experience on my own. I did a lot of work in that field but I became so busy with Two-Rock that I never had the ability to keep up with the changes in gear. This would have been around 2002-2003 and advances in recording came really fast after that. And my sessions became increasingly out of date (laughs) I just couldn’t keep up with it. So that said, being around all of that music, the musicians I was around, recording guitar amp after guitar amp, and listening to different styles from jazz, metal, rock country, folk etc., gave me the ears to be able to hear, from amplifier to amplifier, what sounds good and what doesn’t.

 

So if anyone were to ask me if college were a waste, I’d say no. I don’t necessarily have a ton of connections from college in the industry I’m in now although I do have some. Even the people I was around, I still run into from time to time.

 

JD: Yeah it’s a small world, right?

 

MS: Absolutely. I think college gave me the ability to communicate effectively too with people like artists and what they’re after. Not just in a studio but live performances as well. And all the makings therein.

 

JD: With all these people you’ve met and formed connections with, how do you stay in contact and maintain a good reputation with them?

 

MS: Well it’s hard to say because I’m so busy, it’s really hard for me to maintain a lot of contact. If it’s someone I work with closely, I try to reach out at least once or twice a month. If not, every six months or so. I have a high profile artist that I try to reach out to. I don’t much time to reach out to him very often but I try as much as I possibly can. Everybody is trying to get their stuff in the hands of somebody famous so the high profile artists don’t tend to contact back very often (laughs). But there are some I maintain relationships with. Matt Scohfield and I are really close. I leave him be for the most but he can call me up in a minutes notice and say something like, “Hey, I need something in New York in five days. Can you help me out?” and I’ll bend over backwards for him. And most of the artists and professionals that I deal with in the industry know that. I think follow through is important. I give everyone my email and phone number to make sure that I’m always accessible.

 

Two-Rock: Schofield Signature
Two-Rock: Schofield Signature

 

JD: Is there similarities between being a general manager at Two-Rock to being on the other side of the business as recording engineer or an artist?

 

MS: Well I don’t just manage Two Rock but I also manage the production facility that builds Two-Rock and Tone King.

 

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Tone King: Falcon

 

As for the similarities, its funny, I had one of my managers come to me and say, “I want to take a class at the JC and what should I take?” He doesn’t speak English very well and I said, “What you really need is to take an English class because the ability to communicate effectively is key.“ It doesn’t matter what business you’re in. To be able to talk to people and able manage employees, an artist, a band, whatever. You have to be able to communicate well and you have to do it respectfully. You have to really set aside ego or any other bad personality trait that may come in the way of communicating effectively. Put that aside, be honest with yourself and be honest with the people you deal with. And that’s probably the biggest similarity.

 

JD: Any last bits of advice for young musicians or people looking at breaking into the industry?

 

MS: Follow your dream and work hard. Hard work pays off. I’ve worked my ass off and made pennies to get where I’m at and that hard work paid off

 

Two-Rock: Bionyx
Two-Rock: Bionyx

 

If you’d like more info on Two Rock and Tone King, visit:

http://www.two-rock.com

http://www.toneking.com

http://www.premierbuildersguild.com

Rebellion Song: An interview with Charlie Harper

 

UK Subs-Charlie

 

By Jesse Davidson

“Fortune favors the bold”.

It’s an age old saying that stretches back as old as time and can be taken a variety of ways. For those who live and breathe the music they play, it means throwing out people’s expectations of what you “should” do and not wasting time to pursue your passion. Charlie Harper is a man who has been living a life of just that.  He needs little introduction but we’re going to give him one anyway. Dubbed by many as the “Godfather of UK Punk”, Charlie Harper has been the lead singer and driving force behind the UK Subs since the band formed in late 1976.  For over 35 years, they have been unrelentingly touring and spreading punk rock around the world. On January 27th, 2015, the UK Subs released Yellow Leader on Captain OI! Records. This stays concurrent with their goal of releasing an album for every letter of the alphabet beginning with A and soon to be ending with Z.

We were honored to have talked with him.

 

JD: Hey Charlie, thanks for taking the time to talk to us. How are you doing?

 

CH: Hi Jesse. The jetlag has gone and we feel fine. Hope you all are doing good too

 

JD: I really enjoyed watching the UK Subs live and in person. How did you guys enjoy your first time playing in Lancaster?

 

CH: The Moose Lodge was very basic but a great place to play. We don’t mind going back to basics at all and all the workers at the Moose were wonderful. The food was surprisingly wonderful too. We didn’t know that half the crowd ran outside to watch an argument. We thought they were thirsty and were going to their ice-boxes for beers. There was one girl who kept dancing through the whole show and she kept us going.

UK Subs-Charlie

 

JD: What I’ve always admired about punk music is that at it’s best, it’s a community of people that really put everything they have into the music to keep it alive. You are a great example this ethos that people live by.  Are you able to get a glimpse of this when you visit various towns on tour?

 

 

CH: That is the very reason that we are still able to tour. There are enough people that care. You’re so right in that it is a whole lot more than just the music. It is a global community.

 

JD: I know you must get this question often but can you share with us any bizarre or funny touring stories from gigging in America?

 

CH: The funny thing is, sitting here at the keys,  it’s hard to recall. I just did a interview for a daily here (the Sunday Star) and they wanted all the dirt. I think you can still get it online.

 

The things we think are funny really aren’t funny at all, like throwing someone out the van for drinking and throwing up. But, they would stick their thumb out and get a ride in a Trans Am and beat us to the show.

 

I was shopping at a truck stop and the van left without me. While I was looking for the van, a truck stopped and as we went down the freeway, I saw the van going over the bridge to go back for me. I was at the show two hours before them and they wasted that time looking for me.

 

We always get friends and fans following us across states. They are old enough to drive but not to drink and we knew that our Hollywood show was a bar only show. We were on this tour with The Exploited and normally we would be first on but this promoter wanted Wattie (Buchan of The Exploited) on first. I knew he would start a fight, so I told all the kids to wait at the back door, when the fight starts I will open the door but the fight started sooner than I had thought. As I opened the back door and let everyone in, the bouncers were there with Wattie and the band to throw them out. The kids were thrown out with The Exploited. They saw the funny side but it took them a few years.

 

We played a gay biker bar in San Francisco (a different line up from today). Our Drummer Rab had a nickname for everyone. We had a roadie called Julian. Rab thought that sounded gay, so he named him ‘Gayboy’. The band playing with us had a very young bass player and Rab called him ‘Rent Boy’. We had got to the show early and there were still some bikers in the bar. We were drinking and playing pool and someone would shout, “Hey Rent Boy! Get the beers in!” Or at the pool table, “Gayboy! Its your shot”. We got some funny looks from the patrons. They must of thought, ‘These English kids are weird’.

 

 

Photo by TINA KORHONEN/ www.tina-k.com © 2011
Photo by TINA KORHONEN/ www.tina-k.com © 2011

 

JD: How did you make the transition from owning a hair salon to becoming a full time singer?

 

 

CH: I just gave it to the other stylist (Pauline) and went on the “Farewell to the Roxy” tour. It was just a rented room at the back of a boutique. I never did look back and I was so happy!

 

 

JD: Did running a hair salon provide you with any business knowledge that has helped you in music?

 

CH: The short answer is no. I started out by being signed to the Roxy Sessions over for a case of beer.

 

JD: In The Guardian’s Cult Heroes segment in February 2015, you said that when punk came along, you were accepted.  In what ways were you more accepted than being involved with R&B or other forms of music previously?

 

CH: The whole punk ethos is the stripped down. No thrills, accessible art and music, no snobbery and no experts. They have always been wrong.

Lets start with honesty. Something that is true. No pretense. Lets return the music to the people where it belongs. There was a old cliché which said “The street is not the gallery and the gallery is not the street” We need to turn that on its head. The street is the gallery and the gallery is the street. But until punk came along, I was always a square peg in a round hole. I had found my niche as they say.

 

 

JD: Many people today feel that music in general has become stagnant and want something like the punk movement of the late 70’s to shake things up. What are your thoughts on this?

 

CH: This is what happened in ‘76 / ’77.  We looked around and found that we were surrounded by shit. The only way out was to make our own music or anti-music, anti-style, anti authority and religion. As the man said to Marlon Brando, “What are you rebelling about ” Marlon answers, “What have you got?” (The Wild One, 1953)

In short, we wanted to change everything. A young person with a brain will look around and find that the world is bogus. The rest are indoctrinated from birth and will remain slaves to the various systems.

 

 

 

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Photo by TINA KORHONEN/ www.tina-k.com © 2011

 

JD: How has your writing process and perspective on music changed over the years? Or do you feel it’s stayed the same?

 

CH: I just take it song by song. They kind of write themselves. But if the song is too sweet, I make the subject matter harder as in “Bitter and Twisted” But I just like to find chord changes that sound exciting. Then simplify passages for a verse or chorus. My trick is to have an intro, verse, bridge, chorus, and guitar break. So, by the time the next verse comes around, a minute or two have passed without the music being repeated.

 

JD: Do you have any advice for young musicians looking to start and lead their own bands?

 

CH: I really do have enough advice to fill a book. First, a band is a shared endeavour but it almost always comes down to one or two members conducting things. The main thing is to stick at it and don’t think that you will make the big time. Just love to play as good as you can.

Like all things in life, its what you put into it. Work hard and you will be rewarded, I promise.

 

 

JD: Is there anything musically you haven’t done yet, either with the UK Subs or solo, that you want to try in the near future?

 

CH: Very good question…I’m not into adding a symphonic orchestra but I’ve always said that one day I will tour with a keyboard to play all our songs that include a keyboard. I am playing more solo gigs and one day I would like to play guitar in a group set up. That’s if I’m not totally deaf by that time.

 

 

A big thanks to Charlie Harper and the UK Subs for being a really cool bunch of people.

 

If you would like to check out Yellow Leader or info on the UK Subs check out http://www.uksubs.co.uk and http://www.uksubstimeandmatter.net/

 

 

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While the Band is Playing: Inside the Music Industry

Paul North

Unlike other careers people choose, the music industry is one of the strangest anyone does. Although nothing is guaranteed in life, the path to become a doctor, engineer, accountant, etc., has been traveled by many before and is a reasonably safe journey. When you enter the music industry, there is no path. You only have a vague map to your destination, whatever tools you have with you, and off you go. When you talk to others that have entered the music industry, they can only tell you what worked for them. Sometimes that will work for everyone or it will only work for them. Sometimes you have a guide to point you in the right direction or you won’t have anyone. Sometimes you just throw your hands in the air and see where the wind takes you. It takes a certain kind of person to take on a business like this.

So this is an on-going series for those who are working in the music industry and for people trying to break into it.

While the Band is Playing

by Jesse Davidson

 

In this edition, we will be interviewing Paul North. Paul North is currently a tour manager for the UK Subs and runs a vinyl selling and tour service business called North Records in the UK. WE caught up with Paul after the UK Subs recent West Coast tour in America.

 
 
 
JD: Can you give you give us some background info about yourself and how you got into the music business? 
 
PN: I’ve always been a music fan, I saw the Damned/ Adverts when I was 14 in 1977.  I consider myself lucky to work for the bands I watched as a kid. I had pretty high-end retail positions when I was very young. I got a job with a record company in London but got sick of living down south. I moved back to Blackpool where there was no work available and I started to sell records full time. I started selling records at punk festivals and from there started driving band, selling merch and learned from there. I haven’t had a proper job since ‘89. 
 
After the show in Berlin. Charlie Harper (Center). Michael Schenker (below).
After the show in Berlin. Charlie Harper (Center).
 
 
JD: Did you have a mentor or anyone to help you out?
 
PN: Not especially but your always learning when you’re both selling records and working for bands. My dad had no idea what I did but he was self-employed and was always there just to have a chat or lend me cash if I needed it. He was a calming influence on me. 
 
 
 
JD: I’ve been checking out the North Records website and I’m really intrigued by it. Can you tell us about it and take us through the day to day of running the business?
 
Our mail order business is shit. Because, neither me or my business partner have enough time to dedicate to it as we are always working away for our bands. We update it as much as we can but I have lots of vinyl customers I can call up. So most doesn’t get online. We spend a couple of days a week on it, which is all we can do. My job is to find new stuff. Ig (my business partner) puts it on eBay or our site. We account every 6 weeks and split the profit after costs. Very DIY! 
 
North Records: Very DIY!
North Records: Very DIY!
 
 
JD: You and the UK Subs were really cool and professional when I had the chance to work with you,  which is what I admire in bands that come through town. What are some ways you feel have helped maintain that reputation with you and the band?
 
PN: I have a few simple rules. 
I only work for people I like. 
I don’t work for arseholes. 

I only work for bands I would watch as a fan. 

We are on time. We do our job as best as we can do. 
If you do those things, you won’t go far wrong. 
Oh and be honest with the bands. Keep them informed and get them as much rest as possible. 
 
 
 
JD: It seems out of any form of music, punk is one of the most unpredictable and wildly exciting forms to work in as a musician, sound engineer, tour manager, etc. What are some pros and cons you’ve experienced working in it? 
 
PN: 
Pros: 
(+) It’s the best form of music. 
(+)There’s less industry nonsense.
(+)The vast majority of people are cool especially with the smaller bands I tour with; where the promoter feeds us and puts us up at his own place. Usually, at his expense. I don’t think that happens in other genres as much.. 
 
Cons:
 (-) Well there’s not much money for bands 
(-) USA and UK venues don’t treat bands well (there are exceptions). 
(-)Van breakdown issues are the worst and can destroy a tour financially. 
 
 
But as a rule, even after a bad tour/gig, you can’t wait to do it again. 
 
 
On the way to a gig
On the way to a gig. Lots of this on tour.
 
JD: How do you manage the stress that can come with being a tour manager and business owner?
 
PN: I work or have worked for the following bands 
 
 
I have the best job in the fucking world! If I have a bad day, I think of all the people doing normal jobs. I feel ok then! 
 
 
Just another day at the office.
Just another day at the office.
 
JD: After meeting you, I was reminded of Ian, the tour manager character from This Is Spinal Tap. Is there a lot of similarities between the movie and what you experience on the road?
 
PN: You won’t believe this but I’ve never seen it! But everyone says I should and it’s very relevant! I’m sure it is and one day, I’ll watch it! 
 
 
 
JD: Do you have an advice for young people entering into the music business?
 
PN: Be brave. Give up everything for your band at least until you’re 30! Get one honest organized person to look after money, etc.  Split money evenly between band members, the crew, and the manager. Be the absolute best you can be on the stage and not be an arsehole off it! 
 
 
 
 
JD: Thanks again for taking the time to talk with us and for playing in Lancaster!
 
PN: Well touring the west coast with the Subs was a challenge! But we came through relatively unscathed, and the vast majority of people and promoters we met were great. 
 
 
We had a ball! Thanks to all!! 
 
 
If you’d like more info on North Records, check out
 

While the Band is Playing: Insight on the Music Industry

 

Unlike other careers people choose, the music industry is one of the strangest anyone does. Although nothing is guaranteed in life, the path to become a doctor, engineer, accountant, etc., has been traveled by many before and is a reasonably safe journey. When you enter the music industry, there is no path. You only have a vague map to your destination, whatever tools you have with you, and off you go. When you talk to others that have entered the music industry, they can only tell you what worked for them. Sometimes that will work for everyone or it will only work for them. Sometimes you guide to point you in the right direction or you won’t have anyone. Sometimes you just throw your hands in the air and see where the wind takes you. It takes a certain kind of person to take on a business like this.

So this is an on-going series for those who are working in the music industry and for people trying to break into it.

While the Band is Playing

by Jesse Davidson

 

In this edition, we sat down with Sean Gilmer over lunch at Mi Ranchito on Palmdale Blvd. Sean is a live sound engineer at the Lancaster Performing Arts Center, a recording engineer, song-writer, producer, and musician in the band Lamarche.

Dallen Jimenez (left), Meredith Lamarche (center), Sean Gilmer (right)
Dallen Jimenez (left), Meredith Lamarche (center), Sean Gilmer (right)

 

 

 How did you get your start?

 

“I started with piano lessons when I was about 6 years old. I took lessons from a lady named Joyce Garrett, who was really instrumental in my music career. She had directed gospel choirs and played piano. Then I started to take more trained piano classes and play in classical concerts. I was playing by ear mainly. I wasn’t a great note reader. Then by the time I was in high school, I just played in bands from the D.C area. It was the Go-Go scene so I played in Go-Go bands through most of my teenage to young adult life. That was my heart.”

 

Like Chuck Brown and Trouble Funk?

 

“Yeah like Chuck Brown, Trouble Funk, Rare Essence, E.U. (Experience Unlimited), and it goes on. There were different stages of that type of music, which I considered what most people knew to be more commercial. We did that for years. Playing in bands like that for parties and different concerts. Then I got in a Top 40’s band and sang Top 40’s music with a big twelve-piece band. I went to college and played music in a smaller band called Three Way that was doing really well. We started producing for people and had a group we produced music for. Then I went back home and decided to get into engineering because I wanted to stick with the music industry. I felt like if I could be an engineer, I would at least be near it and I would always hear music. So I decided to either go to New York, Tennessee, Atlanta, or L.A. I ended up flying from Washington D.C. to Los Angeles to follow the big dream in ’97.”

 

“I went to school and worked with engineers Doug Kern and Steve Miller. I also worked with John Barnes who was the musical director for Michael Jackson. I got to work in his studio as an intern and learned how to use a lot of equipment. Stuff like drum machines and different keyboards I liked. Then it was like ‘Let’s build a studio!’ and my partner and I built a studio called Plugs Entertainment in North Hollywood. We worked with artists that are fairly well known. There were a lot of facilities around us and artists would record in them for their label. But they wanted to record stuff that wasn’t on their label. They would work on tracks or record with other artists they couldn’t normally work with. It was just a cool spot. This was the place I told you about that got robbed.”

 

Yeah.

 

“It was a real sketchy thing. Whoever robbed us didn’t want us to be in North Hollywood, let’s put it that way (laughs). I ended up moving to Palmdale and continued the dream of recording and did some solo work. I’ve recorded probably 100 songs on my own and put out about 10 of them. I also did some music with Raptile who is an artist in Germany. “

 

When you first started out, you also played worship music with your family, right?

“Yeah. We sang at different religious events. I would play keyboards. My dad plays guitar. Basically it was just piano and singing. Over the years, my dad has evolved into this big musical director for the Baha’i House of Worship in Wilmette, Illinois. Every year, they have a huge event and I would go. That’s where I met Meredith (the singer of his current project, Lamarche.). We started working on songs and we became real close. We’ve been going to this event every year and it is our ninth year attending. About three years ago or four years ago, she came to California and told me she wanted me to produce her. We were working on something and I played keys, she sang. The first time we met, it worked out. The second time we met, she said, “ I got a show for us”. I said, “What?” She said, “Yeah I booked us on a show”. She wanted to do a whole concert with just her vocal and piano and I suggested doing an acoustic group. We found a guitar player and I played percussion. And that was the origin of the group.”

 

That’s awesome. Did you attend college for music or did you just end up going that way?

 

I went to Tuskegee University as an Electrical Engineering major and I changed majors to Business Administration.

 

 

Has the business knowledge you’ve gained in college helped you navigate in the music industry?

 

 

 

In a lot of ways, it has. And in a lot of ways, it hasn’t. The music business is different from other businesses. There are basic techniques like marketing and how to manage money that help. But overall, the music business is so different. There’s some shady things, not shady things, and things can just happen on luck. People can get opportunities handed to them because they know people in certain places. Almost everyone I know that’s a star has someone in their family that’s a star. They were all helped by someone because originally, it was really expensive to get things recorded. People could charge anything to do whatever in the music business. You can’t charge anything you want for a cup of horchata. There’s only gonna be one price. But for engineering, you could charge whatever you want. If I could have re-thought what I would have done, I would have take music entertainment or law. But that wasn’t really what I wanted to do; I just wanted to play (laughs).

 

 

 

 

 

(Laughs) That’s the good thing about working as a tech is that you can still be near music. Can you talk more about your experience in recording engineering?

 

 

 

Yeah. When I was working at West LA Music (a music store in Hollywood), because I had helped build my friend’s studio, I could refer them there. It was called Platinum Sound and I was working there. as a producer lets say. People would come in and ask, “Do you know where there is a facility we can use an SSL (console) with 2-inch (tape)?” And I’d give them my card and get them over there. We had people like Missy Elliot, Mya, and B2K. We also had a bunch of different engineers that came through. It was amazing to hear all these things first hand. You learn a lot of techniques because everyone does things differently. And what you might work or sometimes it doesn’t depending on what kind of music it is. Even so, some things can cross platforms. Even in rock now, you hear mixes that a hip-hop producer would make because artists want a big bass or snare sound. It’s different from the rock we knew of because things are recorded differently and there are new types of equipment. Something new comes out everyday.

 

 

Definitely. It’s funny to hear about how all these things just came into your path and you just took advantage of these opportunities.

 

 

 

All of them were lucky situations. There was an engineering school and my friends in school. All of them graduated and went out and started working. I was still friends with them and they helped me with different things. Then working in West LA Music on Cahuanga, everyone came to that store. Artists would come through because it was kind of hidden and underground.

 

Anyway, when I told you I was in a group called Three-Way. In that group, we wrote and produced music for people. One of the groups that we wrote songs for, they always got these shows. They were like a Boyz 2 Men type of group. Every time they would show up, they’d show up in a limousine! Everyone would be trying to figure out who they were. We were in Tuskegee, Alabama and they would do that every time they played. Someone from that group told me, “If you act like a star, people will treat you like a star.” So I kind of took that idea when I came to California. I went to the Los Angeles Recording Workshop. It’s now called the Los Angeles Recording School. That’s where I learned how to splice tape and all that good stuff. A lot of those guys in my class were really smart and ended up getting really good gigs. So my friend and I decided to start our own business. We found a guy that did construction, started buying equipment we needed, and took our time. We knew the world was going digital even though everything was analog at that time. So the first console we bought was a Mackie DAB. Then we had the blueprints made up and built the studio ourselves on Camarillo in North Hollywood. That’s how Plugs Entertainment was created. How we got popular was that I took the idea of that group I knew in Tuskegee who acted like stars. We found a guy that had a limousine service. He was my neighbor and had nowhere to store his limos. He had to keep moving them because of street cleaning and he couldn’t park in places on certain days. So we told him he could park them in our garage at our studio. Provided we could use those cars. Then we started advertising big and said if you’re an artist, we’ll pick you up in a limo and drive you to the studio. Our first clients were The Intoxicants from New Orleans and we picked them from the airport in a limo and drove them to the studio. They were so excited, man. We became kind of popular because of that. Anytime we had something big we wanted to do or even just going to the club, we never drove. He was driving us (laughs).

 

 

What year was that?

 

1997-1998. We would just go to these big clubs and mingle with people. We’d give them cards for Platinum Sound or Plugs Entertainment. We just kept going and we met artists but mainly producers. A lot of them were around my age and easy to talk to. Many of them were from Washington D.C so we had a lot in common. We went from studio to studio and helped each other out, sharing sounds and ideas. I did stuff for films I never got recognition for but it was fun. I learned a lot because I got to use equipment I didn’t own.

 

 

That’s awesome. When you were going through hard times, is there any advice that has helped you through those times?

 

 

That’s a hard question to answer but I can tell you this. I have had times where I thought I had an idea and it worked for a time. But the music industry is changing continuously. You always have to be thinking ahead. A lot of people my age didn’t think of the digital world and they totally got stuck. They only knew how to do one thing. So I would say stay on top of technology. The other thing is to learn how to manage your money. That’s probably the most important thing. The second most important would be understanding contracts. If you’re going to be an artist, you need a lawyer. There were so many things I was supposed to be paid for but I never was because someone got the one up on me. Someone will always get the one up on you. But the main thing is, if you’re going to be in charge of your own stuff, make sure you’re actually in charge of it. Because someone could end up getting 50% of something you did that had nothing to do with the song, which is not nice. Or 100% in my case (laughs).

 

What I’m talking about was a deal through Universal where I worked with some guys that were apart of LA Confidential. One of my friends was in LA Confidential. I made a song with him and it got placed in the Lawrence Fishburne movie Biker Boyz as credited as LA Confidential had produced the song. But I produced it and I never got paid for it. And that happens. Right after that, there was another opportunity for a Paris Hilton movie called The Hillz and my partner and I knew what to do that time to negotiate the proper deal. You have to know what you are getting into and how to get your dues (laughs).

 

To find out more info on Lamarche or Sean, go to http://www.facebook.com/LaMarcheBand

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After the Show: Nick Humphrey

Photo by Chris Anthony
Photo by Chris Anthony

 

by Jesse Davidson

In any music scene, there is an unusual cast of characters that become almost permanent fixtures in our lives. Nick Humphrey is one of them. I recently met with Nick – a friend and the main force behind the electronic rock band, Synthecircuit, and scheduled an interview to discuss their upcoming show. I caught up with Nick at Maxdon’s Bar and Grill in Lancaster to talk with him about the history and re-launch of this local staple in the AV’s electronic music scene.

 

How did Synthecircuit get its start?

 

 

It actually started when I was in high school. I was living in Santa Cruz at the time, where there are a lot of “hippie”-types (if you want to call them that) and a lot of really talented underground hip-hop actually. There were also a lot of classic rock and “grunge-ish” bands, but there wasn’t really any focus on electronic rock music. I was so young at the time that I didn’t really had any tools at my disposal to make the music I wanted to hear, but I had just enough to write at home. And I wrote – looking back on it – what was a really crappy demo that had one song (that we’ll still play live) that was actually worth a damn. Anything else was overdramatic, as any teenager would be I guess, and was written from that perspective of being completely self-centered and really honestly ripping off a lot of influences, like most teenagers trying to find out who they are and how they want themselves to be heard.

Really – it never started as a band. I had friends play with me for a few shows and gave it up for a while because of relocating and different things. Then I kind of gave up on music for a while entirely because of being in a few relationships that weren’t really supportive of pursuing anything musically. Then I started listening to certain songs recorded for a second cd that never happened. Once I started listening to those I said to myself, “Wow, these are really bad recordings but there are actually some good songs on here.” About two or three of those ended up on Strange Behavior, which was the last cd we released. Everything else was freshly done with “Bubonic” Nate Dillon. He helped me a lot because he’s about the only person I know who can be in the studio with me and actually steer me in a direction where I can experiment with trying things a different way that I’m not normally used to. 90% of the time, he’s absolutely right about “this is exactly what the song needs to sound like”. The other 10% percent was me being stubborn or me being right, which is left open to opinion.

 

 

Can you talk a bit more about recording at No Exit Records and how that came about?

 

 

Sure. After not playing music for almost ten years, I started playing in an 80s cover band with a few good friends called 1 Night Affair. I kind of…put a strain on my relationship but it was worth it because I was having so much fun doing what I loved and it made me a better player because of it. I hadn’t played in a long time and I was learning all these different styles from different artists of previously written material. There’s this kind of stigma that artists, either locally or in general, put on musicians who are in cover bands. But it made me a better player so I don’t regret my involvement with that even currently. If I didn’t enjoy the people I was playing with in those cover bands, I wouldn’t have continued playing.

Anyway, we had the idea to make Strange Behavior and I gave myself a deadline because I work better under pressure. Literally within six months, I wrote and recorded the rest of the songs with Nate. He helped out with a lot of the backing parts, aside from the overall sound. I actually had my niece come in, which was a lot of fun too, and some other people that were really instrumental in making it sound the way it did. For the first time, I was really happy with something I’d made musically. A large part of that falls in Nate’s lap, not just mine.

 

How did this line up come about and what steps are you looking to take in the future for Synthecircuit?

 

 

Well, the lineup that originally happened was made of good people, but they weren’t really interested in spending time learning previously recorded material. In all due credit, people like Alex Dougherty from Litaoa and Erik Orrell – who spent a long time in the Feel Good Music Collective (previously Rhyme and Reason) – found it wasn’t to their full potential or their full interest of where they wanted to go money-wise or skill-wise for what they were really interested in doing, which I understood. I was looking for people who were more in line with the holistic sound and perspective of the overall songs and interested in contributing to songwriting in the future. Luckily when we played the CD release show at Fresco’s, that lead to me being in Tramps in Stereo after Jesse Vasquez became an immediate fan along with Brett Custodio (also from Tramps in Stereo).

I was asked shortly afterward to join that band, which I did, and playing with them, I met Dani White who was paying bass. She listened to my music and she was really into the idea of wanting to contribute to where it was going. Through one of our shows, I also met Ben Minton. Ben was also really talented and eccentric and was one of the only people I knew of who could juggle playing synth, guitar, and doing backing vocals when needed. We had a hard time find drummers for a while so I just focused my energy on work and going back to playing in two bands. The 80’s band died off after a while and Tramps in Stereo is more lax because we really only usually rehearse a few number of times before having shows. But Synthecircuit is getting back on it’s feet with what I think is our best lineup so far with Anthony Scaglione on drums. I think it’s really important to get along with everyone you play in a band with, along with everyone having the same perspective of where it needs to go.

 

 

That’s awesome. I’ve only seen the band a couple times but I really enjoy the experience of seeing the band live.

 

Thank you.

 

There’s aggressiveness to this band that I don’t see in other bands. Do you think that comes from a meld of everyone’s personality or is that your force in the band?

If you think that it’s there.

 

(Laughs) I know what you’re talking about and I think there is an aggressive force in the band. I do try to battle between feeling like I’m wasting my time on negative energy and emotion versus really getting so pissed that anger becomes positive motivator. With the situation with the Industry Theater (a former local venue) and “The Icarus Trend” video, we kind of spearheaded that into being a thing where we could get everyone involved who’d been frustrated with what was going on at that venue at the time. But at the same time, it was undeniably shameless self-promotion. I’m slapping myself on the wrist now because we were sort of typecast as the “hipster song” band. But ironically enough, a lot of that energy comes from being a Tupac fan and a fan of rap battles, even down to Epic Rap Battles of History on YouTube. (Laughs)

Anger can be a good energy force to draw from, but the main thing is that I always try to focus on the diversity of different source material in terms of overall subject matter. We can go from being angry with someone politically or about someone locally, but some of my favorite stuff I’ve written about comes from love songs or songs about being brokenhearted.

 

 

Yeah it never struck me as aggressiveness for no reason but done in an articulate way. Like classic punk or Tupac.

 

 

It’s funny; when I’m pissed, I always try to come from the perspective of “playing dozens” so hard, even when it comes to a medium like electronic music, but trying to do it in a poetic and lyrical way where the other person just drops the mic and walks away. If I can get enough across, I’m satisfied. On the flipside, sometimes that negative energy is like a bad fire and just needs a lack of oxygen to die – which is why I’m staying away from the “locally” part – but, with the previous situation with “The Icarus Trend”, when you can look down at people enjoying it and singing the word “hipster” back to you, it’s fun at the same time. Looking back I don’t regret any perspective I’ve written from…except as a teenager. Because I don’t know that guy now and he didn’t either.

 

 

(Laughs) Writing in an electronic style, especially as you do, do you feel that electronic music is a more expressive medium than other forms of music?

 

 

That’s a good question. I think electronic music by itself would be just as straight-forward of a medium as let’s say “strictly punk music” or “strictly metal music”. Not to say that those aren’t some great people’s cup of tea, but I like having so many elements of different genres that work well together (at least to my ears). Maybe my music isn’t everyone’s cup of tea and I totally understand that, but I do like having a large palette to draw from when it comes to writing, sampling, or songwriting. I was mistaken for the longest time in thinking the music scene in the AV was strictly punk and metal because – while a lot of stuff is (and hardcore, post-hardcore, apple core or any genre you want to throw the word “core” at the end of) – in the long run, there are so many great acts out here. I do believe this band will be more successful outside the local scene because the reality is that that’s where it would have to go, but I am also very proud to be a part of it. There are some awesome people out here that work their asses off and some awesome people out here that are really talented that I just wish would work their asses off more because I’m waiting for more material from them.

So I think that when electronic music is mixed with a bit of rock and elements of pop, you get something that sticks in your head. At the end of the day, you want something that makes you feel something like a good movie where you say “ Wow, that really sticks with me.” And I try to do that.

 

 

So do you have any info on your upcoming show?

 

 

Sure. We’re playing with our good friends, Carved Souls. I’ve played with them in Synthecircuit and Tramps in Stereo before and they’re phenomenally fun guys to play with. I’m also stoked about playing with Plastic Jewels because they have a great sound and reputation among local artists in town. We’re playing at the Vu In Newhall, which I feel is a good starting point. We were originally going to do the starting show at MyLounge in Palmdale but I think this is a good opportunity to play in an environment where we’re more comfortable and we can test out before coming home and we feel even more comfortable presenting newer material. I’m very proud to say everyone in the band has pulled their weight and we’re really ready for this show.

 

 

 

Synthecircuit performs June 6th at the Vu in Newhall, California. If you’d like for info on this show or the band, visit www.facebook.com/synthecircuit.

While the Band is Playing: Insight on the Music Industry

Unlike other careers people choose, the music industry is one of the strangest anyone does. Although nothing is guaranteed in life, the path to become a doctor, engineer, accountant, etc., has been traveled by many before and is a reasonably safe journey. When you enter the music industry, there is no path. You only have a vague map to your destination, whatever tools you have with you, and off you go. When you talk to others that have entered the music industry, they can only tell you what worked for them. Sometimes that will work for everyone or it will only work for them. Sometimes you guide to point you in the right direction or you won’t have anyone. Sometimes you just throw your hands in the air and see where the wind takes you. It takes a certain kind of person to take on a business like this.

So this is an on-going series for those who are working in the music industry and for people trying to break into it.

While the Band is Playing

by Jesse Davidson

 

In this edition, we will be interviewing Jarod Woznik. Jarod currently is a songwriter and founding member in pop/indie band THE VENNS, a touring member (guitarist) for Daisy De La Hoya’s rock/alternative project BLACK STAR ELECTRA, and also tour manager for Australian brother-sister rock band, SATELLITE SKY.

(Bio below pulled from http://jarodwoznik.com)

Jarod Woznik is a distinguished American Guitarist, Co-Writer, Producer and Manager.  He has had the fortune of being groomed and directed from The Steve Miller Band (Multi-Instrumentalist) – Kenny Lee Lewis, and has got to meet and work with several legendary artists.

Throughout it all, Jarod has remained an enigmatic original. A guitarist without the compulsion for fret board pyrotechnics, Jarod’s distinctive tone, skill, and his let the music do the talking style has launched his career in the music scene.

 

 

How did you get your start? What were your first opportunities?

Well…I am definitely not one of those child prodigies that started making music while in my mother’s womb [laughs].  In fact I didn’t even pick up an instrument until I was 15.  All through high school I practiced, played in comical punk bands (I even had the Mohawk, spikes and all), and started my own record label (which failed miserably, probably due to thinking punk bands could ROI), but it was all fun.  Sadly to say, my first real live show was paying to play at the Whiskey a Go Go, but man what a night.  I started just like everyone else, in a garage playing a guitar with the G string out of tune.

 

Did anyone mentor you on the business or were you on your own?

Towards the end of High School, I happened to visit a music store looking for a piece of gear.  I don’t know how it happened, but the stars & planets aligned and the person that ended up helping me was the Artist Relations manager Kenny Lee Lewis, which I found out later he happened to be the guitarist of The Steve Miller Band.  Funny enough, while putting my info in the computer it turns out we lived 5 minutes from one another so he offered me guitar lessons.  For the next few years Kenny groomed and directed me on my path in the Entertainment Business.

 

What is the best way you’ve found to network with other musicians and industry professionals?

I have found that the best way to network is by going out to events, concerts, seminars and meeting musicians and industry professionals in person.  Sometimes a friendly introduction on social media site works too!

 

In many ways, musicians, artists, managers, engineers, etc., are independent contractors. What are things you feel have best maintained your reputation and career in the music business?

The way I look at it is, if you are good at what you do and don’t have personal issues (or a pain to work with), people will want to work with you.  As I’ve built my circle of friends and connections over the years, I’ve realized that one’s reputation is only as good as what people have to say about you.  Someone may ask a mutual friend about work and they recommend me, and vice-versa.  I believe in Karma.

 

From a business perspective, is being a musician different from being a manager or producer or are they similar?

In my shoes they are very much similar because I’ve worn all of these hats and sometimes have to wear them all at once.  They definitely have different roles but the business perspective is relatively the same of figuring out a way to make a living by doing what you love.

 

Is there any pieces of advice that have stuck with you and changed your perspective? 

I have always been a DIY person.  My perspective on certain issues and concerns in the industry have changed over time, but I definitely think that staying up to date and constantly learning and being the best you can be is vital to succeeding in today’s market.

 

Do you have any advice to young musicians trying to reach their goals?

Go soak up as much information as you can, do it yourself and be the best you can be.  There is always something to learn.  I still enjoy going to seminars and expos!  I’ll leave you with one of my favorite quotes…

“Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens” – Jimi Hendrix